ATI 6000 Series

At work I have a 24″ screen and I consider getting one for home. Maybe a HannsG or Samsung. The problem: 1920×1080 is ~60% square pixels more than 1280×1024 (what I have now) and this higher resolution needs more VRAM. I have only 512MB and running that with my current graphics card would result in lower fps. So soon it will be time for a new graphics card for me (I have a XFX 4830 right now). What would fit my needs is either an overclocked 5770 like the PowerColor HD5770 PCS+ VORTEX or a standard 5850… but somehow I “smell” ATI releasing the 6000 series soon. The 4xx Nvidia series is cheaper and more powerful than comparable ATI cards so ATI/AMD has to come up with something new. There is some speculation going on at Tom’s Hardware:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/286111-15-6000-series

Let’s see how fast this is going to happen… and yea, with 1GB VRAM I will be able to play GTA IV finally with 100% quality 😉

EDIT (Oct 3rd 2010) : Now the AMD Radeon HD 6770 and 6750 Video Card Specs Leaked!

http://legitreviews.com/news/9088/

EDIT (Oct 22nd 2010): The new 6000 generation is finally out the door!

http://www.guru3d.com/news/radeon-hd-6850–6870-review/

this is how they look like (the picture on the top is a 5770 and no 6xxx BTW)


Finally

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Finally I ordered the parts for my new PC! A very reasonable configuration – best value IMHO – based on the AMD Dragon platform. I’m going to put them in the case of an old Medion P4 that I got from a colleague. Will post more soon!

Details:

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hd483xydfcboth354x312GFX-Card: http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/graphiccards/HD%204000series/4830.aspx

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RAM: http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/zboard.php?&id=g_ddr2

phenomiiCPU: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_15331_15917,00.html

aod790gx128menlargeMainboard: http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=AOD790GX/128M&s=AM2%2b

Infos about the AMD Dragon platform: http://game.amd.com/us-en/landings/dragon.aspx

BTW: I ordered at HPM Computer, a recommendation from the PCGH.de forum – Infos: http://www.hpm-computer.de/

X850

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I want to get a AMD Phenom II system soon and I checked some graphics card benchmarks to find a card for the new machine that would bring both performance and value.  Seems the ATI Radeon HD 4830 is a good choice in the 100€ segment (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p9565_Sapphire-Radeon-HD-4830-Dual-Slot-512MB.html).

Usually when you check grahics card benchmarks you don’t see any old hardware. I spotted a very nice benchmark at pcgh.de where they tested 6 generations of graphics cards and… viola! The one that I have currently (ATI X850) is still on the list. LOL 😀 I really can confirm such frame rates in Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare! It’s great! COD4 has a very performant engine that runs perfectly on older ATI cards like the X850.

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Full artice (German): http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,674689/Test/Benchmark/Sechs_Grafikkarten-Generationen_im_Benchmark-Test/?page=1

ATI Stream & Nvidia CUDA

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There are many great things that can make your PC faster… but wait. There is a second powerful processor in your machine already that you might not be aware of. It’s the GPU of your graphics card. ATI & Nvidia are going the right way. There are so many things the GPU can do. I’m encoding quite a lot of videos lately. Just check the chart above. Lower is better and notice the price of the AMD platform. This is what I call vaule. Physics or Artificial Intelligence in games – why do they have to use one of the cores of a Multi-Core-CPU? The GPU can provide the rendering power for that.

More Information:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/graphics/news/2008/11/13/AMD-Details-ATI-Stream/p1

http://ati.amd.com/technology/streamcomputing/consumer-entertainment.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_home.html

Edit:

Q: Why are reviewers seeing so little GPU processing during transcoding?
A: The ATI Video Converter uses the GPU for only a portion of the video encoding. Specifically, the GPU currently offloads only the motion estimation portion of the encoding pipeline which is the most compute intensive part of the encoder. The GPU is particularly well-suited for this task. Given that a fixed workload is being offloaded to the GPU the load on the GPU may be relatively low or high based on the specific model of GPU.

Seems that ATI’s Stream got a little bit in bad light becasue it’s using only little GPU processing during transcoding but I guess that problems will be solved soon:

http://en.expreview.com/2008/12/23/amd-responds-to-avivo-video-converter-feedbacks.html#more-1706

ATI cheats in drivers

Oh yea… ATI is known to do that. Instead of making their graphic cars & drivers better they start cheating to get better than nVIDIA in benchmarks. I remember the same thing happened a few years ago.

So here is the latest case of benchmark “cheating”:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,665049/News/New_Catalyst_drivers_embezzle_graphical_details/

They simply turn off some graphics details. Yea… quite easy way to go ATI ! 😉

Since I have the X850 I really noticed that the A.I. feature in the Catalyst drivers is evil. I had to turn it off to run Quake Wars first. Now in the recent version they changed something and I can keep it on. Most probably A.I. checks for the game you are playing and loads some special settings.

Pain with ATI

I have an ATI X850… the graphics card is not bad, but games and ATI. That doesn’t go together. I found out that “Medieval II: Total War” I bought lately crashes quite often and that it’s the ATI driver that causes it:

http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic112967.html

…and you can’t solve the problem by updating the drivers BTW…

The ATI X850 is not bad… if it works. It’s one of the last good AGP graphics cars, but sometimes you get the feeling of being a second class user with having an ATI card.

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